Value cannot always be remembered or explained

Richard says:
I don’t like Kant since I often don’t understand what he tries to say. Sure, it may be due to me,
but if you can’t explain it to a 6-year-old it’s not really worth to be written down.

This is where real life takes place. Not in Kant’s own theoretic world.

Me:
Value is not always a matter of subjective comprehension…meaning that something intrinsically valuable is tacitly conveyed and perceived and not always to be explained – not even to a 6-year-old child.

Real life is not always “real”…Real life has, – as we know -, many palpable and subtle layers…Thus, even abstract wording has certain bearing, as it is a facet of Reality…Despite his abstruse use of language, Kant aims clearly on something unapproachable for the common apprehension, yet existing.

On the other hand, language is precarious – some of his students were once bewildered failing to properly interpret one of his texts written in his earlier years. So they asked Kant as to what he meant.

Kant methodically read that specific excerpt and simply admitted: “I DON´T REMEMBER”…:)

What is Method and Science?

Cornelius Agrippa:

Science is not a collection of facts, it is a method. There are limitations to this method, that is, areas of human experience that do not yield to the scientific method, such as ethics and aesthetics. Of course scientists do look at these areas, but as it were from the outside – that is, we may be able to say something about how a sense of beauty evolved, but that enquiry will not lead us to the experience of beauty. On the other hand, if there are ‘secret vibrations’ that manifest physically then there is no reason in principle why scientific method should not be one valid way of investigating them.

Me:

As long as science looks to ethics, aesthetics and pathos from the outside, not penetrating deeply into these perennial matters, as long as Beauty and the Imponderablity of Life is left aside as “secondary”, then this very “method” of investigating is nothing but shallow undertaking, vanity and felony hidden behind grandiloquent terms and overblown achievements.

So how can Method investigate things that totally surpass Its conditioned frame of
perception…?

http://julienmatei.com/2012/12/09/questions-to-you-an-excerpt-from-an-earlier-post/

Refusing to see negativity in the seemingly good

This is a great thought-provoking post.

Says seeingwhatis:
Oftentimes, the only way to do “good” is to not want or try to do good.

Defending nice and polite behaviour is not really nice. It may be at times, but not as a rule. Refusing to see negativity in the seemingly good, always results in bad things, in suffering…
The only way to stop suffering is to admit paradoxes…For example, compassion with ego will have terrible consequenses…
Helping people is to help them defeat the ego. The ego does not want this and play on presumed empathy, like you very well might do now.

A very interesting discussion about approaching Ego

That was the original post:

You´ve surely heard this:
“Oh, life sucks.” Such an incredibly arrogant and pretentious thing to say.
No my friend, life never sucks. You suck. Your pathetic mind sucks.

SpinklinThoughts: Compassion…

Seeingwhat is: With the ego?
Boosting the ego?
That is not doing anyone a favour. The suffering for the ego is constant anyway. If someone oppose, there is an ego opposing.

Me: There is a sort of twisted arrogance in suffering and making other suffer. I nurture no sympathy for that.
I only have compassion for humble simplicity…

SpinklinThoughts: And with that statement, sir, do you not revel in your own ego? Do you not disclose your own ‘duality’ and thus your distance from where you claim to ‘be’?

Me: You are seemingly right. You see though, I do not claim to be, I AM.

Being “truthful” sometimes means to create a healthy distance from what is, in what is not.
Duality has to be approached with duality, otherwise there is no chance for being heard. There are moments when being meek and humble is a sham.

Seeingwhatis responding SpinklinThoughts: It sounds like a paradox, I know, but oftentimes, the only way to do “good” is to not want or try to do good.

Defending nice and polite behaviour is not really nice. It may be at times, but not as a rule. The only law, that is at work, not rule but universal law is, that seeing what is, have “positive” results. And refusing to see negativity in the seemingly good, always results in bad things, out of which suffering touch our hearts the most and becomes a focus.
The only way to stop suffering is to admit paradoxes…For example, compassion with ego will have terrible consequenses…
Helping people is to help them defeat the ego. The ego does not want this and play on presumed empathy, like you do now.
I don’t mean that your ego is speaking. Maybe you know more than I do about things. Maybe. I just know or rather see what I see.

Which one is it…?

I know I am wrong.
I know though I am right too.
The difference between right and wrong is subtle and minimal.
Can I recognize when I am right and when wrong?
Sometimes being right is to be wrong.
What was right yesterday is wrong today.
What is wrong today may be right tomorrow.
But it can also be that what was wrong yesterday
Is still wrong today and tomorrow too..

It´s better to be wrong and fail your way, than to be right and fail their way…

Says Nikos Kazantzakis

The highest point a man can attain is not Knowledge, or Virtue, or Goodness, or Victory, but something even greater, more heroic and more despairing: Sacred Awe!

A short discussion about moral

 He said:

Moral itself is a concept made up by the bourgeoisie to justify capitalism. So it doesn’t help to oppose morals to “greedy” capitalism as it’s only two sides of the same coin.

My answer:

Moral and virtue are inherent timeless qualities in the deep layers of the human soul. As long as we refer to these inner realities as “concepts” without digging deep, we will have all these inane isms which demean and belittle us…

The fearlessanalyst says:

Ultimately, I tend to look at education + parenting – two places where countless children have been discouraged from asking questions or thinking creatively, and this is what we have to change among other things. Instead of throwing out the critical-judgmental reactions to kids not knowing something, we throw out testing as the solution instead of throwing out crappy parenting or teaching.
I believe those of us who see, have a kind of moral obligation (not in a religious sense) to constantly raise others’ consciousness – but as gently as we can stand it, so we don’t make them feel threatened. And for our own sanity and peace, we need to accept (or maybe I’m wrong) that it’s a lifetime job

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