Krishnamurti

I woke up very early this morning, feeling huge gratitude for all the answers this man has given me. I know no one else to have faced, observed and articulated life matters I have been pondering for the last 25 years.

I read a while from his book about education, and I felt like making a portrait of  him. While I was drawing him, I was seized with some kind of secret harmony and joy as if he was present.

Jiddu Krishnamurti is probably the most prominent profile in spirituality!

“Life was not made to conform to any system, no matter how noble the system would be. A mind that has been trained only to know facts, is simply unable to deal with Life in all its diversity, with its subtleties, with its depths and heights.”

I translated this from Romanian.

About julienmatei
I feel an inner urge to express what I see, to communicate and share with others all these impressions. Often the things I see are there, not yet manifest, but waiting... to be observed, talked about, and embraced. These new insights need another approach, a more vivid curiosity... Due to fear and prejudice we prefer to see only "the official" truth - but THE OFFICIAL TRUTH IS DEAD - being dead, it has nothing to give... We can continue pretending Death is fascinating or... we can take the trouble to LIVE... THE NEW has no definition yet... Again, IT requires another "perception", the courage to apprehend everything differently, from a totally new angle, with new confidence and inquisitive touch. This blog is not about interesting concepts, it is about participation... finding new solutions, inspiration, togetherness.

15 Responses to Krishnamurti

  1. goldennuggetde says:

    Ya, Krishnamurti is my favorate, too. I haven’t found anyone adequate to him …….. so far.

    • julienmatei says:

      I am pleased to hear that. I do agree with you, Krishnamurti is outstanding in his incredibly astute observations. Very few, if any, can rise to those heights of clear perception…

      What is it you appreciate about him?

      • Well, it is what you mentioned, of course. In addition I really appreciate his way of not using endless definitions …… quite contrary to all the philosophers. Furtheron there’s no vanity or jealousy in his words or doings. So all this is pretty rare.

        What I haven’t found in his articles is techniques of meditation. So I’ve been reading (and still do) Ajahn Brahm. His use of words “at ground level” and amusing as well as really progressive.

  2. julienmatei says:

    I do agree with you, Krishnamurti doesn´t use general terms or definitions of any kind, as all defintions create more confusion and, kill life – ultimately.

    That is for the same reason he doen´t offer any “know-how”, method, or technique.

  3. I agree. I’d like to ask you what you mean when you say “all defintions create more confusion and, kill life – ultimately”. I must admit that I’ve been looking for some reasonable explanations why definitions are senseless ……. somehow. Thanks.

  4. julienmatei says:

    An opinion is a just another fragment of reality. Can a fragment understand the whole picture?

    Can we grasp Reality in a direct, immediate, unconditioned way?

    Can we see clearly that, without exception, every definition or explanation deprive us of our freedom to explore?

    I could give you “explanantions”, as to why Life shuns all definitions, but that won´t bring you any real benefit as you will most likely begin to compare with what you already know, and this creates more confusion. I think is far more important fo find out yourself.

    You seem to realize that all definitions are senseless, and this is a good sign. You seem to heed your need for real answers.

    The quest is about emptying the mind, as only a clear mind is able to have a direct experience

    How can we have a clear mind when education, school, society has had us follow and conform to patterns?The whole idea of teaching and learning is built on conditioning, don´t you agree?

    The answers will come to you if you start to question your conditioning, if you have the guts…

    Hope you don´t find my words hard to melt. Do I manage to reach out to you?

    • goldennuggetde says:

      My dear Julien,

      Your words appear to me as if JK had spoken them himself. I can clearly follow You and Your words are not too hard for me. Quite oppositely, I really appreciate pragmatic verbalization.

      As we know JK’s word’s are somehow inconvenient. This is due to the fact that they do NOT fit into the absolutely conditioned way of living that we practice.

      I do discuss those kind of topics with a few special highly appreciated friends of mine who are quite sophisticated in philosophical matters as well as in terms of buddhism. So anytime we are disussing I try to get away from any definitions. It has been my experience that if certain people do understand each other basicly, there’s hardly any need for further definitions. Everybody knows what anybody wants to express.

      Thanks,
      Ricardo

  5. julienmatei says:

    Hello Ricardo,

    Tks for your reply.

    It is kind of weird indeed, right after I had written to you last time, rereading the text, I had the eery feeling myself as if JK was kind of present…Hm, I guess ACTA would not have been so happy about that 😛

    Anyway, it is nice connecting with you, pragmatic verbalization is highly vital. When some few individuals change, the whole world will follow along.

    Now, if you want to stay in touch you can add me at Facebook.

    Be well,

    Julien

  6. goldennuggetde says:

    Dear Julien,

    it is a real pleasure to “talk” with You. Probably our thoughts go the same ways, basicly at least. And since I’ve read Your biography I found a few more items that we have in common.
    I have been trying to set up my own wordpress but I still have some technical problems on that. Maybe the oncoming days I’ll succeed.

    Since I’ve read that You are capable of the german language, I’ll send You a link. Maybe You like it. If not, it doesn’t bother me as well.

    Thanks for now and best wishes from southern Germany,

    Ricardo

  7. julienmatei says:

    Hello Ricardo,

    Indeed I have a special “relation” to German. This language has some kind of strong emotional impact on me, I love German poetry…

    Ich finde mich zu recht in Deutsch, aber spreche ganz ungrammatisch :). Maybe I have a chance to improve it, I never learned it at school.

    When I was 15, I followed my father on a tour he had in Germany.
    I stayed three weeks with a German family, and had to learn the language to make myself understood, as they only spoke German. 🙂

    The feeling is mutual, it is nice connecting with you. Inspiration comes out of communication, life is about relation after all…

    I understand it is not easy to get started with your blog, I encounter many techncial difficulties myself too.

    Alles gute und bis bald,

    Julien

    • goldennuggetde says:

      Hi Julien,

      I have made it ……. eventually. I put my thoughts as a small booklet on wordpress:

      http://entkomplizieren.wordpress.com/

      Still got technical problems with computing on wordpress. Hopefully the essentials work properly.

      Since I’m not a professional author (nor journalist) my word findings may sound ridiculous sometimes. But who cares?!?
      You’ll find basics of JK’s thoughts in my words, too. Of course 🙂

      Best wishes,
      Richard

      • julienmatei says:

        Good!

        Welcome with your thoughts!

        Paul Eluard ( a French poet I am fond of) said this : write first without thinking, than make the corrections after. I think it is a very wise advise.

        So, when you write, don´t be afraid of being ridiculous. Only mediocrity is afraid of doing mistakes.

        We never know exactly What we are and what we are about to become.

        Writing is a powerfull tool in the great adventure of self-discovery. That´s what it counts – to take the trouble to start this journey. You never know where this road takes you, but assuming this risk is the price of being alive…

        The so called “professionalism” is many times a terrible self-imposed cage.

        When you are thirsty, you drink. Writing is quenching the thirst of the soul.

        A la prochaine,

        Julien

        PS How old are you? 🙂

      • Thanks for your empathic comments. I really appreciate that.
        You’re asking how old I am. I’ll surely tell but I’d like you to give an estimation first.

        Ricardo

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