About simplicity and quintessence

In response to my post that “Simplicity is complex” Richard comments:

No!
Only the point of view concerning simplicity makes it complex. Simplicity itself is simple.

Me:

Do you have any idea how many hours – or days even – it takes to write a simple melody?
There is nothing wrong with complexity as long as it is quintessential.

Richard:

No, I’ve no idea how long it takes to write a simple melody. But this is only psychological time :-) . It should come out of you without the use of your brain. Just from your heart and soul. Is this realistic? What do you think?

Well, I got my problems with classical music within this concern. It is often so highly complex that it’s harmony is suffering. I miss the coziness (the german word Gemütlichkeit would fit much better) within that type of music. Maybe it’s because it’s so highly sophisticated.

Me:

My thought goes to Beato Angelico – they say he was meditating and praying before starting to paint.

When it comes to composing – for that matter this applies to all “serious” creative pursuit – it is of course also a great toil alongside with inspiration…to hone, to take away, to find quintessential clarity. Think of Michelangelo carving like a fury in the icy marble…

Undoubtedly, you have the clear vision, but labour is a fact. It is the same whenever I write a text, like now… – I feel the ongoing inspiration which motivates my writing, but sometimes
it´s a hell of a job to put the right “contingent” words…so you can create the easiness and flow you´re talking about.

You are right though about the “Gemütlichkeit” in classical music – although I write at times
complex stuff -, I aspire towards a soothing simplicity, I endeavour to create that kind of pure enchanting harmony you are talking about.

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I feel an inner urge to express what I see, to communicate and share with others all these impressions. Often the things I see are there, not yet manifest, but waiting... to be observed, talked about, and embraced. These new insights need another approach, a more vivid curiosity... Due to fear and prejudice we prefer to see only "the official" truth - but THE OFFICIAL TRUTH IS DEAD - being dead, it has nothing to give... We can continue pretending Death is fascinating or... we can take the trouble to LIVE... THE NEW has no definition yet... Again, IT requires another "perception", the courage to apprehend everything differently, from a totally new angle, with new confidence and inquisitive touch. This blog is not about interesting concepts, it is about participation... finding new solutions, inspiration, togetherness.

3 Responses to About simplicity and quintessence

  1. goldennuggetde says:

    Julien,

    thanks for Yours!

    Not long ago I saw the only way in having success is hard work. That is to say, to achieve a goal meant pure laboring.
    Since I go those “new paths” – the kind of thinking and viewing which we discuss within these posts permanently – I see a way which shows the possibility to achieve a goal only through heart and soul.
    So it sometimes occurs that I write a post like this without real thoughts. The words seemingly pour out of my fingers and appear on the screen. This is when the most empathic answers and comments result. I feel so, at least.
    Writing in my own mother tongue language doesn’t take as long as it does when I write in english, of course.

    What I try to say: combined words which are not polluted by education are much more ……… no – they are the only ones – which can truly express life.

    And now I am provoking: it’s all the same with composing music.

    Didn’t those grandiose men like Beethoven and friends (:-)) compose like scientists? Their music is highly sophisticated, with incredible amount of laboring, extremely beautiful … but I postulate: without any true heart. Those guys were much more thinking music than living it. They were pure theorists.
    Maybe I dare to say that because I’m not a musician nor a composer. But I surely like music. It touches (me) much more when a child plays a little melody on his instrument than to listen to a symphony.
    A close friend of mine is the head of our local music school. I listen to his playing once in a while. I’d say he’s a master of his instrument. But when he plays some highly sophisticated compositions I get disappointed because the heart within this beauty of tones is missing. I miss the “pure enchanting harmony” with it’s simplicity as You described it above.

    What do You think?

    Richard

  2. julienmatei says:

    Let us ponder a moment – linger with every question:

    Does Time exist?…
    What exactly is Memory…? Who remembers what?…”What” remebers who?…Why…?
    Would time exist if there was no remembrance…? If time and memory didn´t exist, could we ever speak about “Culture”?…think about this…- as for sure, what we call culture is the outcome of memory.

    If memory didn´t exist, we couldn´t possibly speak about conditioning either, could we…? “Why” couldn´t exist if there was no conditioning, as conditioning means possession ultimately. Again, no possession – no Why.

    So if time, memory, culture, conditioning and possession didn´t exist, there wouldn´t be such thing as “Knowledge” either…Yes, Knowledge is possession.

    Subsequently, if there is nothing to possess, neither “What” nor “Why” would be justified viable questions.

    Now, this being said, I ask you: as there is no such thing as What or Why, could there be any “goal” or “purpose” to achieve…?

    This is the most quintessential question deriving from it all – because if there is no purpose nor goal to achieve, it means that the only existing thing is Now. Blessed and infinite Freedom. If we really penetrate and comprehend this, things like Science, Art, Music would be total different things than what we presently ascribe them to be.

    • goldennuggetde says:

      To be honest: I don’t see the context of your comment to the topic of the original post. But that doesn’t matter. Maybe You didn’t want to answer my provoking thesis 🙂

      I’ll comment your reply within your recent posting.

      Richard

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