So sad…or not

“We are born as originals but die as copies.”

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About julienmatei
I feel an inner urge to express what I see, to communicate and share with others all these impressions. Often the things I see are there, not yet manifest, but waiting... to be observed, talked about, and embraced. These new insights need another approach, a more vivid curiosity... Due to fear and prejudice we prefer to see only "the official" truth - but THE OFFICIAL TRUTH IS DEAD - being dead, it has nothing to give... We can continue pretending Death is fascinating or... we can take the trouble to LIVE... THE NEW has no definition yet... Again, IT requires another "perception", the courage to apprehend everything differently, from a totally new angle, with new confidence and inquisitive touch. This blog is not about interesting concepts, it is about participation... finding new solutions, inspiration, togetherness.

10 Responses to So sad…or not

  1. cuoregiallo says:

    Couldn’t agree more

  2. phop247 says:

    I have seen this quote before and I seem to tend not to like it so much. Although for a lot of people this is true, I would say for me, I try not to emulate others – at least generally speaking. There are multiple schools of thought, and I am not saying I am an extreme individualist but I would rather be different than more of the same. I am having trouble wording this the way I really want to, but I just think the author may have wrote or said this in dismay looking at society and seeing as the masses as one big group of the, more or less, “same.”

    Thoughts?

    -Paul

    • goldennuggetde says:

      Hi Paul,

      do You think there’s an “I” which can be an individualist at all?

      Richard

      • phop247 says:

        Hi Richard,

        Well, not completely but I think one can be more individual, or perhaps nonconformist is a better word, than choosing to mold to a form – so to speak. This really gets into the problem of Free Will which I continue to wrestle with and do not have a great answer to. However, I recognize we as individuals are not cut off from everything else, but rather we are all connected. This is not to say that individuals cannot be unique, which is where I would argue we can be individuals, but as far as being an completely isolated individual – I am not sure this is possible.

        I am not sure if this even answers your question, which is a rather good one i might add. I hope it helps though – if not, feel free to say so, by all means!

        Best,

        -Paul

  3. goldennuggetde says:

    Hi Paul,

    thanks a lot for Yours.

    It seems as if we are kind of on the same stadium of knowing, believing and not knowing. It is so hard to find the appropriate words where words actually can’t express the (hopefully) true story behind it.

    Krishnamurti and Eckhart Tolle are quite brilliant authors concerning all these subjects. I’d claim that Julien is quite equal to them, though his way of approach is a different one.

    So, I’d say that your reply met exactly the core of my question ….. as far as this is possible at all 🙂

    One thought in addition: individualism needs much effort for resistance and opposition. This effort however causes major sorrow when we think of unfulfilled wishes.
    So what can we do about that?!

    I’d say the answer to this is quite simple: living our life in the now creates an individualist automatically. Without any effort. What do You think?

    Thanks,

    Richard

    • julienmatei says:

      Richard and Paul,

      You seem to do all right in your dialogue without my involvement. :)) You maybe are interested to take over Mirrors of Encounters too. It would be quite fun I think ;;)

      Anyway here is my answer:

      Let´s put like this – can anything exist in separateness at all?…Hence, who is this Julien Matei? Is Julien a separate entity? Is he an outcome of total relationless-ness? Or is he a product of different other societal factors, relations, events, people, frictions, dreams and projections?…

      Again, is relationless-ness – let´s say, total isolation – a reality…? Is “I” a reality per se, or can it only exist in relation to everything there is?…

      Where does an entity begin where does it end?…

      So who is Julien when he writes to Paul? Who is Paul when he connects in vivid dialogue with Richard?

      Who is Richard when we interact in this uncommon way…? Who are we, Paul, Julien and Rchard – not necessary in this order – when we meet here in this discussion?

      If we manage to authentically meet each other in these insights, we realize that the precise entity of Richard, Julien and Paul becomes rather irrelevant. Irrelevant in the sense that none of us remains the same, but each of us grow – hopefully!! – if we allow ourselves to be just little “irrelevant” for a change, and kind of get nourished by the energy of this beautiful dialogue we create together. To grow is to dynamically give up boundaries, for sure, when we have the courage to “lose” ourselves, we come to the understanding that it is fear we let go of, and not our specific identity.

      Only fear tries to make sure of its “fixed” identity. Fear tries to “emulate” or not emulate others in order to escape its paradoxical nature – that is, through escaping itself, Fear fiercely struggles to contain itself, to remain the same. Strange but true…Yes, Fear is isolation. I-ness is the derivative of isolation. Only fear can exist in perfect relationlessness. Its worst menace – I am sure you will find this strange – is authentic relation, cause in dependable relation Fear fears its disappearance…

      Real Joy created out of togetherness knows no boundary…it explodes indiscriminately in all simultaneous spaces. Thus entity becomes entities, and entities entity…

      In this immediacy, we come to the understanding that boundary means possession and in Joy all boundaries dissolve, as Joy cannot possess as there is nothing to possess…Joy is eternal space, reality beyond reality…

      Can we see that we are unique but together…? Together but unique…:)

      • So into this topic right now. So into this addiction we have to being special. To being unique. To being the one. To being the ‘right’ one.
        On and on, it takes us so far away from the center of our truth which is that being knows no such thing as special, because it just is. It exists naturally in that way as do we all.
        You can’t be it because it already is.
        Mirroring what you said in the above comment “Real Joy created out of togetherness knows no boundary…it explodes indiscriminately in all simultaneous spaces. Thus entity becomes entities, and entities entity…”
        Love that, so well put.

      • julienmatei says:

        We can be “someone” first we dare be no one…
        What It is is so sincredibly special…-yet we don’t know it…If we did, we wld
        immediately drop every attempt of being someone.

        Just to let you know that I loved your last post.

        Hugs

      • Daring to be no one, to discover our someone, is just beautiful. A truly beautiful thing.
        The very thing that exhausts us is the thing we can release. We can then become the thing we always wanted with ease.
        How amazing is that? Just amazing.
        Life is so beautiful. It’s so naturally poetic in it’s mystery. This inspires me today.
        Thanks for reflecting your loveliness.
        It feeds my being.
        BIG hugs back to you!!

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