A great dialogue about the Unknown

Richard:
All of us do only think. There’s no real knowing. To see the unknown is a great task. Not seeing seems to be much easier than seeing. It takes a lot of courage to see, since our society always urges us to wear some extremely dark sunglasses.

seeingwhatis answering:
To not know is a great task. Or no task. But no task is impossible for an individual to have. Knowing is mind. Still there is knowing, which is a miracle. Pure reflection of seeing what is. Second to knowing there is thinking of knowing, which is belief in form of doubt. When you see you see and apart from that you just exist without belief. To just exist as one with all you have to vanish completely, and then lose your perception. Still there will be a process, but no memory. No one to enlighten directly from that no-state.
You know if you know. Otherwise you think.

My answer:

Richard
Of course there is no knowledge in thought, as thought is mere projection of the fearful mind.

Let´s put it like this: The Unknown sees you, and when you allow to be seen, you see the seeing…This can happen only when mind is peaceful and “un-moving”- like the stillness of the lake mirroing the pure sky.

You see, that is very hard to swallow this, but what we call “society” is our own resistance and fear to abandon illusion.
Society as such, can exist ONLY within our inward illusion, society is indeed a sum of illusions, mine and yours…Once we start letting go of and seeing illusion as illusion, we can feel horrendous loneliness…as what is left…? We have built our whole life on a terrible misunderstanding…It hurts to fully realize that, it feels like we are left with nothing.

That´s why most humans don´t dare leaving the false, as the false connects and binds them.. This is their sense of security, being false but together… To face this utter loneliness requires huge courage as you start questioning the collective deception. As you know, if you deprive people of illusion they will react fiercely, feeling threatened…and consider you being odd, crazy or whatever…Generally they don´t like the individuals who go against the current.

Not fearing solitude is the beginning of the death of illusion, and then only,
The Unknown can make itself “known” to us.

About julienmatei
I feel an inner urge to express what I see, to communicate and share with others all these impressions. Often the things I see are there, not yet manifest, but waiting... to be observed, talked about, and embraced. These new insights need another approach, a more vivid curiosity... Due to fear and prejudice we prefer to see only "the official" truth - but THE OFFICIAL TRUTH IS DEAD - being dead, it has nothing to give... We can continue pretending Death is fascinating or... we can take the trouble to LIVE... THE NEW has no definition yet... Again, IT requires another "perception", the courage to apprehend everything differently, from a totally new angle, with new confidence and inquisitive touch. This blog is not about interesting concepts, it is about participation... finding new solutions, inspiration, togetherness.

6 Responses to A great dialogue about the Unknown

  1. goldennuggetde says:

    Thanks for Yours.

    I must admit that I got confused with all of these partly spiritual and partly scientific expressions of knowing, thought, mind etc.
    It’s probably because we cannot easily express our feelings with words.

    But You put it clear for me: first of all is to loose the illusion. Then to fall into a dark hole of depressive thoughts, recognizing that nothing is secure. And ya: people are extremely afraid to take off their dark sunglasses in order to see the absolute real reality. Once You’ve taken this stadium as normal, you can stop wishing and hoping for a better future.

    Richard

  2. seeingwhatis says:

    No mind…
    No mind means that there is nothing to get. People are so good at avoiding the point.
    You can keep thinking about it forever. But why? It’s highly irrational.
    Give up.

  3. seeingwhatis says:

    Is there really something spiritual? Is there something scientific?
    There is the problem of not grasping, and not having a task. That’s really just it. Focus on this.
    Why belief in an answer or concept immediately leads to another question, another thought…
    Confusion is illusion. Confusion is the urge to know on the conceptual level, which is impossible.
    Accumulated knowledge bears no answers. Answers we accept has to be seen to get accepted as seen. Then we have seen it.
    Truth has to arise within to feel like true.

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