The dialogue about Depression goes on

I think I understand, as this is what Krishnamurti says…the knower and the known are inseparable. Also, this is the way I used to think many years ago, and do not hold the same views now. But anyway, why was this thought about “needing to know” occurring in the first place? What motivated this idea? Conditioning I suppose?

So why are we seemingly dissatisfied with “what is?” Meaning, why do we create all of this complexities and problems by fragmenting “what is?” What do you think about that?

Thank you for such a well posed and thoughtful response! I look forward to your next one.

My answer:


Look! Thinking is not understanding. So either you “think”, or you understand.

What I stress here is whether or not we see the urgency of our predicament.

When hungry, we eat. It is not a method, a “know-how” to pick up the food
so to say – you simply eat cause you are hungry.

The same applies to whether we are motivated or not to look into the nature of Depression, TAKING A REAL STEP TOWARDS UNDERSTANDING and eventually “get free” from it.

Understanding means lucidity, that is, unreservedly and directly confronting and dealing with the problem; only this immediate lucidity brings the fruitful action which brings about “a healthy change”.

Immediacy means Attention now. Alertness.


Consequently, if we “think” of a problem, it means that we don´t see the impending danger inherent in it. We don´t take it seriously with other words – cause only Attention and Action Now counts.

Most people intellectualize their problems, without being really interested to deal with them.

We can fall into the same trap after all, indulging here in intelligent discussions that will bring no real benefit, or we can seriously consider the problem.

So basically, we need to directly confront this thing called conditioning! To delve into it. Here and now.

This “needing to know”, is required in order to identify the problem, but this very urge “to know” can also mean AVOIDING THE PROBLEM – avoiding to take clear action.

Where there is inner conflict, there is fragmentation.

We live in complexity as we refuse to assume Simplicity – that is, looking dispassionately at the very nature of Ego.

Ego is the Problem, as ego is intrinsically a sum of conflicts.

And only when Ego is seen for what it is – conflict and fragmentation – then and only then we have a chance to get a glimpse of the whole picture.

“The whole picture” means clear vision – to see through and beyond ego. Only this realization will heal us from depression.

About julienmatei
I feel an inner urge to express what I see, to communicate and share with others all these impressions. Often the things I see are there, not yet manifest, but waiting... to be observed, talked about, and embraced. These new insights need another approach, a more vivid curiosity... Due to fear and prejudice we prefer to see only "the official" truth - but THE OFFICIAL TRUTH IS DEAD - being dead, it has nothing to give... We can continue pretending Death is fascinating or... we can take the trouble to LIVE... THE NEW has no definition yet... Again, IT requires another "perception", the courage to apprehend everything differently, from a totally new angle, with new confidence and inquisitive touch. This blog is not about interesting concepts, it is about participation... finding new solutions, inspiration, togetherness.

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