Which is worse – atheism or false spirituality?
Atheism is a nuisance, but a bigger pain in the neck is the unbearable sentimental bunkum around taken for spirituality. Verily, when I think it over, I´d rather prefer the atheist to the one indulging in sentimental egomania which is taken for spirit.
Can we look into this beyond fear and delusion?
He:
Julien, what constitutes a spiritual experience for you? Or how does one truly know that they have had a spiritual experience? I may not have even phrased the question quite right, but I am just curious of your thoughts on the matter.
Me:
We are eager to know, aren´t we?…- so we think that through logic and comparison we will reach an edifying truth…How can our limited and biased perception approach such a vast subject-matter which escapes and transcends intellectual undertaking? So no matter how lofty my “spiritual” description, my experience will never equate yours.
Knowledge is a dead thing afer all…it is no more than an obsessive
repetition – experience, as a sum of all our yesterdays. Utterly considered, Knowledge expels direct perception…killing life with other words, as aliveness is the prerogative of immediate experience.
If we subsequently want to gain a clarifying insight as to whether spirit is a reality or the fabric of some deluded minds, the only way to go about is to question our cognizance.
Simply put, in order to gain a direct and immediate experience of this ineffable reality, we have to have the guts TO UNKNOW IT ALL… and start examining the truth of this with a fresh and innocent mind.
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I feel an inner urge to express what I see, to communicate and share with others all these impressions. Often the things I see are there, not yet manifest, but waiting... to be observed, talked about, and embraced.
These new insights need another approach, a more vivid curiosity...
Due to fear and prejudice we prefer to see only "the official" truth - but THE OFFICIAL TRUTH IS DEAD - being dead, it has nothing to give...
We can continue pretending Death is fascinating or... we can take the trouble to LIVE...
THE NEW has no definition yet...
Again, IT requires another "perception", the courage to apprehend everything differently, from a totally new angle, with new confidence and inquisitive touch. This blog is not about interesting concepts, it is about participation... finding new solutions, inspiration, togetherness.
Mirrors of Encounters 
True, both atheist and false spiritualist think they “know”
Quite so…Tell me, do you use Facebook?
yep https://www.facebook.com/yohamiz
There are two results form the experiences of that UN-knowing. The first is those who have had the emptying experience and write volumes as a result. Swedenborg and Dr David R Hawkins come to mind and the other result is silence. Aquinas who-I’ve read-stopped writing after his enlightenment. Of course we don’t hear from the majority who have entered the Cloud of unknowing.
Atheism is a refusal to know mistaken for knowing. Much religion is information mistaken for knowing.True Knowing is like walking there is no thinking about it once the reality is there, only demonstration follows. “This is the way walk ye in it.”
Very good point: True Knowing is like walking there is no thinking about it.
Very interesting to find our that Aquinas totally stopped writing. It does make sense…
Silence is the loftiest music…it includes all things created and uncreated in its bossom…
Knowledge for the sake of knowledge is a dead thing.
Imagining that it is possible to grasp the incomprehensible (a fancy word for ‘ungraspable’) is madness. Delusion…whether in the name of religion or anti-religion.
No…we can´t “grasp” it, but, as it were, revel in it…But as long as we put a word to it…it instantly vanishes…and only projection is left….
Hmm…
Well, goddam.
Again…to the dialogue thing (accepting the caveat that putting words to things vanishes them).
How is dialogue even possible when the non-person with whom I imagine that I am non-dialoguing with persists in reminding me that the words that I use instantly disappear everything and leave only projection?
Here. I’m going to put a word to something and magically cause it to become mere projection…
Absurd
If I raise mt hand – that’s Zen. But the moment I claim that I raise my hand, that´s total nonsense…
The obviously absurd may just as well be the most profound liberation. 😉